How to combat the rise of radical islam

General and Other Policy
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As the number of muslims reach a critical mass in Britain, I notice they’ve become more strident & demanding, especially since the 7th October outrage.

What can we do as a nation to curtail the spread of these more fundamental elements in islam & is it even possible now?

The face of our country has ebbed & flowed for centuries, without great issue; however, in the last 30 years, that change has accelerated & I feel my British soul & culture to be under direct attack!

How do we do as we’ve always done on these Isles, absorbed & assimilated invaders & migrants alike, but that soft approach cannot work with the deluge of one specific religion that is uncompromising to its core?

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Vote for whichever party in the future includes Rupert Lowe and Ben Habib. I see no other way.

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After the about face by Farage on this topic, I would want to be sure that any party I voted for was serious in its promises to stop new Islamic immigrants and remove existing Islamic immigrants. I don’t have a problem with members of other religions who come here legally. Maybe a Tommy Robinson seal of approval.

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I may’ve said this before, but how are we defining Islam here? For instance, the Druze and the Ahadayya consider themselves Muslims, but every other Muslim sect would say that they are heretics who should be put to the sword.
Shikism is a religion derived from Hinduism and Islam as I recall. They are monotheists and believe in the Abrahamic God, but don’t use the old testament and were historically persecuted by Muslims.

Whilst I’m broadly supportive of the sentiment, I think the challenge lies in the definitions.

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For the sake of our nation, it is a necessary “evil”, only to those who would perceive it as evil, the loud minority of the left. We simply cannot deny that there is an existential threat behind those who abide by the islamic ideology, no matter the depth of faith put in by each individual muslim.

Our nation does not have high numbers to be fine with any amount of muslims with the way that they multiply. We all know and must not deny that they themselves use breeding as a means to out-populate a nation and take over. Looking at Lebanon in the 60s, they lost against the muslims and it was horrific. Muslims took over and persecuted Christians, and only now after 60 years we are able to see a resurgence of Christians in the nation as the islamists aggro Israel.
The UK, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Austria, we just keep hearing about the many attacks carried out, and the local media puts it down to “mental illness”, which you could see as a way of them calling islamists crazy in one way, beyond the point that we know it is a coverup. The ideology of islamists is that they don’t care about dying because they will be sent to get their 72 virgins in their heaven, I have seen numerous video clips of muslim women smirking at the person who is interviewing them and the context said just before was about how this muslim states that we see more worth in someone being alive, and so if they spend one of their muslims to kill one of us, then it was a life spent well and they are devoid of emotion (this won’t apply to every one of them, but it is an example recorded). There is another clip of I think a politician in Iran, he was told how his son had just down this/last month, and he stopped for a second, smiled and did not show emotion, he knew he died for the cause of attacking Israelites.

My end point, they must be removed no matter the case. We can remove the majority and withhold some who are “lite-muslims” but integrate properly. We would make all deportations and such and then apply the no-mercy laws to severely limit the trends of which we see from muslims, such as clothing, and not have mosques, no halal meat, so on.

Combating the rise. We must make families, we must connect together as the English/Welsh/Irish/Scottish and talk, create communities in our towns/villages/cities, start neighbourhood watch, have our men capable of protecting themselves (thus being able to protect others). We must encourage the connection to be made with rural/countryside people too, and do things that encourage a relationship with each other.
Pubs/Churches/Markets are all key in our current time as we talk, we interact, and we support each other. Our farmers need our support sorely, we know the Gov right now is doing sinister things to eject farmers out of their homes and its going to severely damage the UK. You MUST be ready and willing to talk to each other, and be ready to oppose nonsensical labour actions, like “dimming the sun”. If the farmers begin to hurt, so will you when you notice food no longer in the shop, or it will look smaller or not as healthy.
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I want us to be there for each other. Labour is intending to reduce our numbers, even by some thousands until the next election, and they are importing illegals against our will. This is what they DID in America, but America woke up.
66% of people didn’t vote in our last general election. 66%. That is deadly to us now, it simply cannot be allowed. So, I don’t just implore you, I demand every British person wake up their neighbour, any pub goer, any grandparent, any chav on the street, any person who “I just keep myself”, and say that we need you, and we need you to know that things will become harder, more expensive, more miserable if people don’t vote.

I implore you, to save your country.
Breed, be there for each other, have big families, go to church even if you are not religious (not the church of England if the local priest is woke, go to a Catholic church if available nearby), support your farmers and buy from your butchers. Make communities and neighbourhood watch groups, connect to people offline and maintain connections both on and offline. There could be a day when the stick of patience snaps, and so offline connections is reliable. Know your friends, and be wary of your enemies.

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I cannot disagree with any of that apart from going to church. This problem was started by religion, another religion is not going to solve it. We must also unite the centre-right, which is the stated aim of GB-PAC, but what are they doing? Not a criticism, just a general enquiry.

What I am doing, meanwhile, is starting a small group and inviting Tories, Reformers, UKippers and ex-Reformers to sit down with each other and look for common ground. Because we all want the same thing.

Perhaps this is what GB-PAC could do on a larger scale. Circumvent the ‘leadership’ and give the people more of a discussion platform, with the possibility of live meetings. People face-to-face are often a lot less gung-ho than when sitting at a keyboard.

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Christianity in our days before the separation of state and freedom of religion were our most cohesive as the English. The further we have steered from Christianity, the more depraved we have seen people become in our streets, men and women found in a video that parade and dance around in their underwear for example. We have enough evidence to see where progressive liberalism has taken us and how the Trans ideology has spawned through liberalism. I won’t push you to become a Christian or anything, but the point can be noted that churches are already a form of community that can be gathered to oppose these things which taint common sense living.

Have we not had enough of loud screeching liberals wanting to enter the opposite sex’s toilets? Of them taking a mile when you give them an inch? It does prey upon a weak government, and I would not say to make Christianity a leader at our point in time here, but our values and ways of living before the Blair corruption were that of Christian values and ethics.

To you other point, I have also considered something of a Center-to-Right council, where we get the Integrity Party/UKIP/other noteworthy parties that will make discussions and aims among them. I personally see the the Tories as of current is too far on the left-wing of things, so I can’t call them into this council but a few of their members certainly are conservative in mind. This council idea is also to basically say that parties will plan with each other, as long as they are willing to cooperate sensibly. So, lets say UKIP has more voters in a Integrity Party constituency and vice versa, they would then converse and alleviate their slot strategically to assist each other to secure a stronger voter base in that area. This is an idea for now but of course there would have to be a professional approach to such between parties.

I would prefer a leader to be steadfast both in person and by message, like Nick Tenconi for example hasn’t faltered, and Ben Habib/Rupert Lowe don’t back down. We have no time for people to pander around words they don’t mean.

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I have been an atheist for a very long time, in excess of 60 years, but I have lived a relatively blameless life. While far from perfect, I have abided by the laws of the land and the dictates of common morality. But then so have millions of people who are atheists, agnostics and followers of religions other than Christianity. Even Muslims are following the rules of their God.

However, as well as my refusal to believe in a deity, I am also very strongly against organised religion as I consider it to be a form totalitarianism. The reason that religion was anathema to communism was that it was a competing form of dictatorship. And the similarities are there. The commissars and the priesthood dictating how people should live their lives with the gulags or damnation for those who disagree. At the top of an unelected hierarchy sits the General Secretary, Big Brother, the Pope or the Archbishop, with the latter being the only ones who, conveniently, God will speak to directly.

You say, “Christianity in our days before the separation of state and freedom of religion were our most cohesive as the English.” For the word ‘cohesive’ I see ‘compliant.’

You also say, “The further we have steered from Christianity, the more depraved we have seen people become in our streets, men and women found in a video that parade and dance around in their underwear for example. We have enough evidence to see where progressive liberalism has taken us and how the Trans ideology has spawned through liberalism.”

Of course, one place that you will not see such examples of ‘progressive liberalism’ is in any Islamic country, so why do you want to ‘combat the rise of radical Islam’ when they want the same things that you do?

“I won’t push you to become a Christian or anything, but the point can be noted that churches are already a form of community that can be gathered to oppose these things which taint common sense living.”

That’s good, and I won’t push you to become an atheist, but I would argue against your assertion that ‘churches are already a form of community.’

The church in this country and elsewhere (Christian fundamentalism in the USA) has always been a dictatorship where you do as you are told or face eternal damnation. That isn’t community, that is fear-based oppression.

I am quite capable of living my life and making my own decisions by following the laws of the land, which are largely based on the second half of the ten commandments. I do not need to be told what to do by someone appointed to tell me what to do by a God I do not believe in.

As to the second part of your response, what I am doing is not a council. It is a group that sets up meetings between diverse parts of the group.

So, anyone of us can decide to pick a date, place and time for a meeting (For coffee in a café, drinks in a pub, they can go roller-skating if that’s their thing) and whoever wants to turn up from within the group can do so and enjoy some serious conversation. Think NCF Locals but a more fluid.

At our next meeting a serious topic of conversation, when we get to politics, will be Integrity. We are made up of a few staunch Reformers, a few ex- Reformers, a few Tories and a few undecided. From the pre-event gossip the consensus appears to be that we keep a watchful eye on Integrity and hope that it can stay true to its aims and not become another Reform.