Public Enforcing General Elections

The British public should have the full powers to enforce an earlier planned General Election if there is clear evidence that the government in office has lied on their policy proposals

It’s not right or fair that the British tax payer has to suffer and wait for the 5 years term to complete.

A robust & non bureaucratic process will need to be implemented to avoid ambiguity and so swift decisions can be made for a re-election to take place before the 5 year term completes

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Yeah to wait 5 years after a failure of the first 6 months of this term, this has been a lesson to all.
We need a system that also can’t be abused but needs to be effective.
The issue we have, is that we have a lot of bureaucracy in Gov, excess departments that are needed, quangos galore, these are the ones that will work against us.

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So anyone who can manipulate a significant portion of the population would be able to bring down a government? Something like this would be too chaotic and prone to control by influential organisations. Any television channel, social media company or even foreign government could engineer a public outrage to remove an elected government.
The whims of excitable mobs should not hold power.

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Yeah it would have to be done in a such a way to evade that, but I don’t have any brain power today to bother thinking about how I would do it.
One thing that we have an issue of is sleeping voters and those that are just allowing the political winds rush by them without voicing their own point, they just “don’t want to get into politics” and its a nation killer eventually.

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…anyone who can manipulate a significant portion of the population would be able to bring IN a government…

This happens everytime anyway. Why not allow them to bring down a government too

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This is a very important point. If I start a new job I get a probation period. The government should have one too. I would make it so that if the public wish to dispose a government than they would need to 65% of the electorate to write to their MPs to say so.

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This could be fixed by making this a tool for use by the house of lords.
There would need to be a reformation of that house first obviously. But if it was returned to hereditary lords then it could be used instead.

Technically this is already doable by the king, and I would say that there needs to be a way to petition the king directly for this, through the lords.

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A probation period sounds like a good idea , get rid of a lot of the quangos and make the House of Lords impartial .
Get back to basics and undo all the unnecessary legislation passed by the Blair Government and subsequent Government .

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Replace MP’s with a jury member from each constituency. They vote on the performce of the Country Leader. Including. Hire and fire. The Leader is paid £20 million per year and agrees budgets and targets which each government ddpartment and reports back to the jury. Jury operates one day a week

I have to agree with this. At the moment, with the Uniparty and the Blob in charge, the system has become a liars charter - they say whatever they feel they need to say to get in and then do nothing they promised or the precise opposite. It is highly corrosive for democracy if people think their votes don’t matter, and it makes the system subject to abuse by liars and sectarian politics, with people voting on racial or religious lines, rather than what is best for the country.

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This policy is similar to this one, where several ideas are put forward to counter any attempts to abuse the power to recall a parliament:

I do like the idea in general, but I have concerns around its implementation and how it might work.
The dangers are that we get constant elections and that turns the government into more turmoil than it is already.
I think if individual MPs/MSPs/Councillors are required to be booted out, it shouldn’t take a criminal conviction with a jail term to do it.
However, it would need a specific high threshold vs the votes that got them elected in the first place, in order to make this function properly.

Generally I think that the British Consitution has served us very well since 1688. However, I think where it has failed us more recently is that it has proved inadequate to deal with ideologies - socialism and communism - whose adherents have a quasi religious belief in them, with the end justifying the means of introducing them - lying is perfectly acceptable. It is not for nothing that the emblem of the Fabian Society is a wolf in sheeps clothing. Lying is corrosive and contagious in politics, the press scarcely hold then to account and the traditional democratic remedy of voting them out at the next election has proved inadequate - the lies told by this labour government are off the charts, but the Tories “talking right and governing left” were not much better.

I am of the opinion that the electorate needs a more immediate remedy - maybe voters should be able to apply to the Supreme Court (or preferably a re-constituted House of Lords if we manage to repeal all of the damaging Blair legislation) for an order that fresh elections be held if the government is behaving in a way that is contrary to its manifesto commitments.

The days when the risk of being called out and either shot or run through as a liar are long gone. Personal honour and integrity is apparently not enough. Democratic remedies are plainly not enough. We need to have some other mechanism to ensure that politicians who lie, mislead and deceive are held to account, so the public actually get what they vote for.

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