One of the many good things about GB-PAC is that provides a platform for debate rather than the frenetic rhetoric of Facebook and other social media. Therefore, I would like to respond to your post point-by-point.
âThere is a deliberate attempt to destroy reform, and stop it from having a very real chance at forming a British government in 2029âŠâ
You are so right, although it would seem that we might differ as to who is responsible for this attempted destruction.
ââŠ, its no coincidence that after several members of the party left they go straight to the media and tell tales out of classâŠâ
Neither Rupert Lowe or Ben Habib âleftâ Reform they were kicked out. Rupert Lowe wrote the article that caused him to be removed prior to his removal. Ben Habib and Rupert Lowe have since written articles and been interviewed on the subject of Reform. What were they supposed to do? Sit quietly and let Reform have all the say?
ââŠRupert Lowe is the latest, he is accused of bullying and with threats of violence, and is being investigated by the policeâŠ,â
âAccused ofâŠâ by members of Reform. The police have dropped their investigation. The KC hired by Reform to carry out an investigation has said that Reform did not allow her to carry out a full investigation.
âBen Habib was the first one who didnât get what he wanted and went straight to the media, you have to beg the question, do these people have no loyalty for the party, it doesnât look like they have.â
This is an odd one. Loyalty is a two-way street. Why would Rupert Lowe or Ben Habib have any loyalty for a party that kicked them out and then attempted to defame them in all possible ways? That takes the notion of blind loyalty to a whole new level.
âYouTube influencers are doing what they can to make sure that labor get another turn in office, people need to ask why?, what are they getting out of it, to call for the make up of a new party is just suicide at this stage in the game, to try and divide the public vote is going to give labor what they want, a second term in office.â
With all due respect, that is abject nonsense. Pointing out that Reform has changed tack and is now trying to become another part of the Lab-Con Uniparty is just honest journalism. A rare commodity these days.
Let us look at a few facts.
The total Labour vote in 2024 was 9,708,716 as against 10,269,051 in 2019 when Corbyn was trounced by Johnson. The reason that Labour are in government is because the centre right did not vote and the only reason that they will get into power in 2029 is if the centre-right do not vote. They did not vote because they could not trust the Conservative government to be what they said they were.
After the last GE, with Reform getting five seats the attitude to Reform changed and they became the party that many of the centre-right saw as the only party that could lead them out of the current situation and away from the Islamaphoria that is dragging this country down.
Nigel Farageâs change of tack on the deportation of illegal immigrants, the removal of Ben Habib for the sin of disagreeing with Nigel and the withdrawal of the whip and the following slander and libel against Rupert Lowe brought home the indication that Reform was perhaps not the great right hope it pretended to be. Not just to the public but to the journalists who had until, then supported Reform.
This does not mean we will get a Labour government next time but may well get us a Conservative government.
âWhy do they want others to turn against a party so quickly and convince others to do the same does beg the question, the country i knew was Loyal, today people are only loyal to what others tell them to be.â
It is not that they turned against the party, it is that the party turned against us with Nigelâs decision to become part of the Uniparty.
The thing is that there is loyalty and there is blind loyalty.
And by your own statement, you are only loyal to Reform because that is what others told you to be.
âIm sure that if the labor party were to see this group they would be over the moon, reform is the biggest threat to labor and with the local elections coming up they would want to hope that somehow the votes can be divided to break the hold reform has, a huge win for reform is going to rock the labor party to the core.â
Whether Reform does well in the local elections or not doesnât really matter. The turn out for these is always abysmally low and has never proven to be an indicator for how a party will do in the general election.
âTo support any other party this late in the game is a win for labor, you may as well vote for labor and watch the country being flushed down the toilet, knowing that you had a hand in itâŠâ
We have three or four years before the next general election. An election Labour will not win, if they continue as they are, because they have upset as many of their own followers as they have non-socialists.
A week is a long time in politics. Three years is like the gap between the dinosaur extinction and now, in comparison.
A year ago, as a member of Reform â I joined in 2022, by the way â we were discussing the will they/wonât they of the 2024 general election. Out on the streets, campaigning anyway, the most asked question about Reform was âWho are they?â
After the general election there was a short honeymoon period but in September 2024 I was at a Reform meeting in London where we were introduced to the new Branch initiative and what that would entail.
It all looked very interesting and exactly what we needed in a âpeopleâs party.â
Largely by omission, what we were told was untrue.
Later that month I was elected Deputy Chair of our local Branch.
Over the next six months, we were vetted and although much is made of this vetting, it is corrupt. There are a surprisingly large number of parliamentary candidates from the 2024 election who failed vetting. We were never told exactly why, but many were in prime locations where a âsuitableâ candidate could be parachuted in, rather than have some local nobody get voted in.
Our attempts to make the branch work were thwarted by head office, while they were telling the membership at large how well it was all going. We had to sign NDAs that no other party demands. We were forbidden to talk to or discuss Ben Habib. Short of singing âThe Red Flagâ we might have been in the Politburo.
And yet we kept going. Because we were loyal to an idea. To the notion that Reform would deal with what is perhaps the greatest existential threat to this country since WW2, mass illegal immigration. Right up until Nigel Farage said that, no, we wouldnât be dealing with that threat.
âReform is not a company anymore, if you did your reasearch you would know that reform is now a proper political party and is not a LTD, farage doenst own a single share, the party now belongs to the people, stop believing what other people tell you and do some researchâŠâ
Again, with all due respect, may I suggest that you follow your own advice and do some research. I would also suggest that this does not mean finding somebody who agrees with you and stopping there.
The reality is that while Reform UK Party Ltd does not belong to Nigel Farage, it does not belong to the people either. It was restructured on February 20th, 2025, as Reform 2025 Limited. This is listed as a nonprofit organisation with no shareholders, but with just two directors, Nigel Farage and Zia Yusuf.
This means that although Farage and Yusuf do not own Reform, they control it. So, the party does NOT belong to the people.
