Declare a national immigration emergency bill with 12 key components

By declaring a national immigration emergency bill, the following issues should be addressed:

  1. Immediate freeze of all non-essential immigration for 3 years

  2. Following the freeze, limit immigration to net zero, so only as many people are allowed into the country as British citizens who leave to live elsewhere. The number of permissible migration visas will be determined based on the average emigration from the UK over the previous 3 years.

  3. Cap student visas at universities to a maximum of 5% at each institution. Regularly send border agents to inspect universities to ensure they aren’t simply being used as backdoors for migration purposes.

  4. Double the employer NI tax contributions on foreign workers.

  5. Deport every foreign criminal with dual nationality or non-british citizenship back to their country of origin.

  6. Create a specific department of immigration, distinct from the Home Office, to ensure these policies are met.

  7. Anyone in the UK illegally will be deported either to their home country or to a safe third country that the UK enters a deal with, such as Rwanda.

  8. Turn EVERY small boat back to the safe country (usually France) that it came from. Utilise navy resources if required.

  9. Scrap the Human Rights Act, leave the ECHR and cancel any other treaties, agreements or bills that prevent proper immigration enforcement.

  10. Deport any non-british citizen who supports proscribed terrorist organisations or groups or nations hostile to the UK.

  11. Prioritise women and children in asylum claims and cap asylum numbers to the low thousands each year without a specific parliamentary vote on any extension (for example in times of war).

  12. No non-British citizen to be able to claim housing or benefits for more than 90 days unless they are a specifically registered asylum seekers based on point 11.

The immigration crisis impacts every aspect of policy, from education to health to housing and more. Even putting aside cultural and social cohesion issues, the sheer numbers are logistically impossible to cope with. It is estimate that within 5 years, over 5 million more people will have arrived and settled in the UK. This would require millions more GP appointments, millions more homes built, millions more school places etc, all for new arrivals, not even factoring in the population growth from people already living here. Serious reforms are needed to deal with this logistical issue.

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Perfect. How is this not common sense?

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Amendment to point 1.

No immigration until essential is clearly defined.

Amendment to point 2.

For 10 years the number of people allowed into the country should be matched against the number of foreign nationals that leave, not British citizens.

New point 13.

Encourage repatriation of overseas British nationals especially business owners. - take a look at El Salvador’s repatriation, huge benefit to the country

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In principle I totally agree. My general thoughts are:

Point 1 - I would define it in two categories. The first would be high-status business visas, i.e company owners, high net worth individuals etc. I don’t mean Chinese or Indian officials who have half a million in the bank, I mean specifically big company owners, multi-millionaires, entertainers, sports stars etc. I would be in favour of limiting this to the point that a select committee of the Lords vet the applications (on top of the existing civil service protocol).

The other category would be healthcare workers. Obviously in the medium-long term we have to be training our own medical staff much more, and with the exception of poaching some of the top surgeons from around the world, your standard GP would be trained in the UK. However even if our ideal government were installed tomorrow, it would take the best part of a decade to train the necessary medical staff to replace foreign doctors and nurses. Until then we’d have to allow visas or the health service would collapse even with a total immigration freeze.

On point 2, again, totally support in principle but given that would only really be a few thousand in all likelihood, thus limiting the number of, say, Americans, Europeans, Australians etc to move to the UK, they might put similar restrictions on us, which would go down very badly with the population who might want to emigrate for their retirement etc.

Point 3, all for encouraging repatriation, and incentives would do that for some business owners for sure, but a lot of the reason for British nationals emigrating is retirement to sunnier places. We can change a lot, but unfortunately the British weather is here to stay. So definitely encourage it, but El Salvador’s situation was quite different, the country was almost a failed state at one point, people were leaving for all sorts of reasons, economic, family safety etc, and so getting them back was easier than convincing a 70 year old British couple to leave their villa in the Algarve and move back to Leeds, lovely as Leeds is.

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Apologies, that was a bit longer than I expected!

Could we add any foreign national coming in should be police vetted before acceptance and they have to contribute ÂŁ30000 up front and demonstrate the skills necessary to be able to support themselves and have a least one confirmed employment offer.

The benefit system should not be used by people who are not born in the British Islands nor should the NHS be available to use until a person has lived and contributed into the system for 5years

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In principal not against any of those. The concerns I’d have would be:

  1. On vetting, depends how many people come in per year I suppose. Remember that 400,000+ people leave the country to move abroad every year, for work or retirement etc. Even if we only had 50,000 come in per year, that’s a lot of police time. Special border agents might be better, liaising with police when necessary?

  2. On benefits, absolutely agreed.

  3. The money up front, the issue there is that a LOT of brits move abroad. If we imposed £30,000 upfront fee to live here, it’s very likely other countries would do the same. This basically means nobody but the very wealth could ever afford to move countries. Even if this were doable, I think it would risk being very politically unpopular, not just with young people who often want to work abroad, but with older voters nearing or at retirement age who are kind of the backbone of the conservative movement in the UK, their support is crucial to get reforms through.

You can still, absolutely charge for visas as we do now, and increase employer NI contributions for foreign workers being hired, and restrict migrants claiming benefits etc though, which would probably achieve similar results.

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Yes I see what you are saying about vetting; I think therefore a more rigorous process should be applied when the legal migrants apply for a visa.

I understand what you are saying about the ÂŁ30000 however I believe Australia have a similar system for people from other countries who wish to emigrate to that country. They seem to manage it fine, but I need to investigate this further, so thank you your pointers.

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Totally agree re. the visas.

On the fee, it’s a risky move I think. Something like a quarter of a million brits are retired living abroad in Europe, if just a handful of countries (spain, portugal etc) introduced the same policy in response, you basically alienate a quarter of a million people overnight, plus anyone planning to do it in the future. Especially when older people are a large base of conservative support.

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Yes but they do have to provide for themselves including health care. They are not handed freebies at the tax payers expense. We are a joke.

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Overal I agree just added my comments for consideration.

  1. Currently entrepreneurs, business owners, doctors, nurses teaches, skilled are leaving the UK but we have too many low skilled/blue collar entering. Only grant visas where specific skills are required across the spectrum. Business owner/entreprenurs with min ÂŁ500k-1M net worth less restrictions dependent on their business as they will be generating wealth, creating jobs etc.

  2. Student visas are a source of revenue, before placing a cap conduct a study. Increase fees to entry instead this automatically will reduce numbers if a cap is to be in place. Remove rights for dependents/family memebers to join unless they have secured employment.

  3. Double NI contributions on foreign workers will still be a strain on our NHS. Fee structure should be in place - pay each time they visit a gp, medicaton, surgery etc. After 5 years they can then revert to our NI contributions.

  4. Once they claim housing benefit and are given accomodation would be a long process and at tax payers expense to remove them. They should not be given any form of benefits. Longer term we need to be moving away from a benefits system where people are able to work and only have this for the ones who genuinely need it.

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Couldn’t agree more, I like the idea of doubling NI for businesses employing foreign workers as incentive to employ british, but with the general motivation of people that maybe aren’t in work or don’t want to work and they’ve been allowed to think that way by allowing benefits to go out of control and an overall lazy culture that’s been bread for decades, while many people may not have the skills we need currently we need to create a viable pathway that the people can see from getting to point A to B with some sort of re-education or maybe would have to be government grant to do courses or crash courses in particular fields to get them into a direct pathway with businesses on board with incentives for higher, medium and lower skilled work I think would do good in line with this policy.

Not sure I articulated it as well as I had in my head but hopefully makes sense

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I broadly agree with much of what has been said. A long term freeze on immigration is probably a good thing. Especially at the unskilled level.
There’s a conversation to be had about high net worth, skilled workers etc but realistically these are not the people causing the national problems.
If we said that our freeze, for example apply to people earning less the ÂŁ65000 or have less then ÂŁ500000 in the bank, for example.

A couple of suggestions for reforms that may be worth a look for incoming immigrants:

  • I think the tax system as a whole needs complete reform but whilst we still have our silly system then double employers NI for 10 years.

  • New immigrants pay a ÂŁ10000 security deposit with an inflation linked yearly topup. After 10 years or leaving the country they can have their money back. This could also be payed by companies wishing to bring in foreign workers almost as a bond payment held as security against the migrant worker absconding.

  • All immigrants must have private health insurance for themeslves and any dependants that arrive with them.

  • There will be no access to housing or other benefits.

  • Only allow immigration from countries with which we have return agreements. And if countries start violating these agreements we freeze all immigration from them and possibly impose sanctions. No tourist visors/ allowing our citizens to visit etc.

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I believe there are large numbers of illegal immigrants already being used as cheap labour or brought into crime (there are local businesses that I strongly suspect of acting as local hubs or explotative outlets for these people, such as food delivery services nail bars, barber shops and hand car wash businesses). Strongly agree with the idea of a separate national office of immigration but suspect we may have to have a whole department in charge of deportation or relocation. There will also be a short-term economic impact? The UK is not only addicted to very cheap low-skilled immigrant labour but also has a vast illegal immigrant labour problem.

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As a nation, i think we’ve been sold a false dawn built on the back of cheap/ slave labour.
If the industry involved can’t pay enough/ provide the employment conditions that will attract people to it. Then maybe we can’t have it.
Things like Deliveroo, soft fruit picking, underpaid cleaners and childcare in wealthy households etc, We need to accept that it is both immoral and bad for society.

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We have to go for simplicity. A five year (at least) moretoreum on immigration.

During that five years, we phase out welfare or NHS for anyone who’s been here under a period of time - I would say ten years - giving people a chance to go home or prepare for a life in Britain, paying taxes through work.

All British citizens must be able to speak the English language within a shorter period - of, say two years - or face deportation. Not only will that concentrate minds, it might inspire people to join this country rather than sit upon it like a cuckoo.

And other carrot and stick incentives that do not get us bogged down in detail.

And, I’m afraid, no Islam. It’s an existential threat to us, pure and simple. As hard as this may seem, an honourable way to achieve it would be to make our Island a safe haven for ex-muslims. This would give us something decent to work towards, rather than being stuck in constant negativity.

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At first I was going to ask “Why Twelve Points”? It’s simple enough to just say STOP IT, but after reading the points, they are good details. I’d just make it 12 of the most crucial points. 12 of 1000s

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Broadly agree with all of this - I do think we also need to consider limiting the right to Indefinite Leave to Remain, and to the right to have families and dependents join.

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The Quran, and the Hadiths, are quite clear as to the supremacy of Islam and Sharia over all other faiths, jurisdictions, and loyalties.

A few years ago, I wrote to my MP about the damaging levels of immigration and included the following. He passed this on to a Home Office minister. It was not denied.

Muslim community by attitude….

  1. Jihadists – those who are considered a threat and capable of terrorist activity. Security services estimate 40K+ in UK, which number can’t be constantly monitored.
  2. Islamists – sympathetic to Jihadists with same views but not considered an active physical threat. This group contains radical Imams.
  3. Conservative Muslims – holding many of the same views as 1 & 2 without advocating violence.
  4. Others – moderate Muslims.

I, 2 & 3 might well make up as much as 70% of UK Muslim population.

Political Islam is taking advantage of Globalism, EDI, and the weakness of the governing classes in defending British culture and values. I fear that out of the 5 million Muslims in the UK a good 4+ million want to impose their culture and values on us. This population will increase through immigration and higher birth rates, probably by 75% every decade. Islam is political. Currently Islamists are piggybacking Labour. With a critical mass they will form their own party. In 10 / 20 years’ time they could well hold the balance of power in Westminster.

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To add to this so then it is written and seen. Muslims who follow islam to the T, will likely have 4 wives, and in the European/UK space, they will still have the 4 wives, but only register 1, then because socialists are weak-minded, they will allow the muslim families to have more than one abode so that the man will cycle through his wives each night, and doing so to breed more. Families can reach close to 20 children, and sometimes almost double that.

If we look at how the UK is repopulating itself with White British, we only make…53%, followed by the “White Other” giving another 11%, so…they are purposely going to try and out-breed us, whilst they try to “reduce” our numbers (without saying the word directly).

This is exactly what they had achieved in Lebanon in the 60s, they outbred the locals, uprising, overpowering, then submitted the Christians to “Jizzya” (almost a funny word but definitely not funny circumstance to be in).
They will try to make the natives “feel that they are submissive” and impose the Jizzya TAX on them, in order to stay alive. Those that are not Christian are not given any mercy, so they typically would jump the gun on making the final decision before there can be any pleas.

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